Thats why I left The Way. I was also the sole defendant regarding completely different issues in Texas. Believing that God led her to Wierwille, she underwent his intensive two-year training program, The Way Corps, designed to produce loyal leaders. Ego is a big word. I will say this, Dr. Victor P. Weirwill was the greatest teacher Ive ever known. I lived in 4 way homes and when things went wrong, we stayed up until they got right or the individual causing the issue had to move on. VP was always about money and control. Plus, during that past year or so, my heart had become a vast, empty hole. God does deliver people from the enemy . Truth be told, I havent found a church that comes close to teaching what I learned in this ministry. Note the ever-ready plastered-on smile, the long soliloquies where this kind of stuff would be hidden among what one was told was the main topic yet the real agenda was to propagate sexual acts we would ordinarily find abhorrent. Deposition of L. Craig Martindale, page 123.. Women should definitely be quiet and let the head of the family, i.e. My relationship with my husband has been restored; we were on the brink of divorce during our final years in The Way. Liked by Craig Martindale. 150. He groomed him to take over when he died. Rosie, Donna, Coward and Wanda Wierwille Allen, and da forehead himself, all wanna make it to their Gunnison Emeritus retirement home. The things he taught 60 years ago are truths that are just being discovered by ministers of today. Display as a link instead, Im glad you had a better experience, but it is not the experience of many. That probably kicked in so he didn't have to work at UPS during the Christmas season and tell tall stories that could get around. . You WILL NEVER GET THE TRUTH from twi. The very foundation of it. Publication date 2018-11-01 Topics remnant, grace, word of God, L. Craig Martindale. Not too shabby.for a guy who was ousted under a cloud of suspicion and sexual predation, eh? We have 33 records for Craig Martindale ranging in age from 36 years old to 71 years old. Dr Wierwille taught the truth of Gods Word that in my heart still stands today. Im not alone when I say there was an air of hush, making these abuses taboo to discuss. You know a Ryan Murphy project when you see one. Not staffers. Not even his creepy version of B.G. Of course I had something to do with you revealing which cult you were in, you just cant admit it. The second reason The Way was fraudulent, in my opinion, is that Wierwille plagiarized the work of others and passed it off as his original work. Now divorced, Ive been attending a community Christian church since 2014. Questions were discouraged which was standard when anyone departed an uneasy hush with a pretense that nothing had happened and all was okay. Clear editor. The doctrines they have now about tithing and money grubbing are really demented. IIRC, back in the 70s the IRS paid VP a visit. I felt it was time, I placed it in a comment and Frank made it an article. Cults are primarily frauds. Of all websites, the Frank Report should be known for this benefit. CRAIG MARTINDALE OBITUARY Craig Royal Martindale 1950 - 2018 Craig Royal Martindale, 67, passed away peacefully in Salt Lake City on January 22, 2018. I believe Donna is still living at HQ. It had a seal of approval for sex in which leaders who do their Bible research said it was OK to have plenty of sex before marriage. Everyone is selling something. I know in the Way if you had $$$$, were a doctor, lawyer, ex nun (yep, we had a sister of St. Joseph just out of the convent and in the Way and went WOW to Colorado within a year and may have married another Way believer and she was handled like she was gold), highly successful in your field you were treated well. Not too much public information exists for The Way International. To leave was a tormenting decision riddled with internal chaos. When people spoke against him, I thought of king David who wanted Basheba so bad he put her husband on the front line. You can post now and register later. Sex is neither immoral or illegal. She knows that if she goes down in flames, so does loyboy. Again, I knew nothing of this at the time. Not that the leader is having sex. Visionary Homes Location 50 E 2500 N Ste 101, North Logan, Utah, 84341, United States Description Industry Commercial & Residential Construction Construction There you go again. The phrase is condensed from Romans16:17in the King James Version of the Bible. Loy Craig martindale Howard was his flunky. We had a bond with our local leadership. And then, when I left, it was for my children. After the "kid in a shed" thing at Tech, he dropped off the face of the the earth. Your link has been automatically embedded. Our first rental home was over $900 per month, but we were debt-free. For the most part we made our personal decisions in private and informed leadership if we deemed it appropriate. He still gets his tax-free $65K pension too. Being touchy-feely. The perjury raps alone would pull down what's left of their walls of Zion and prevailing woid. They all steal from others, repackage, rebrand, put their moniker on it and sell it as some divine revelation either from God or they are just so much smarter than the rest of us mere earthlings. Neither were the so-called high times and God moments unique to The Way. Hardcover. Seems fitting. This memoir on her experiences in The Way International will help readers understand the subtleties and complexities of cultic groups.Michael D. Langone, PhD, Executive Director of the International Cultic Studies Association, Editor ofCulticStudiesReview,Editor-in-Chief ofICSA Today,and Editor ofRecovery from Cults: Help for Victims of Psychological and Spiritual Abuse. For instance, his book, Receiving the Holy Spirit Today is a very close reproduction of a book by J.E. There's more than a passing resemblance between "Cocaine Bear" and "Wet Hot American Summer.". They had officiated our marriage in 1984, had helped me with my chronic health issues, had provided much emotional support when I left the Corps and after my Dads automobile wreck in 1983, and had provided child care numerous times for us, and we for them. Perhaps The Way was further enlightened to allow women to hold leadership roles, much as the Mormons increased the number of people who could go to Heaven over time. -->. Previously, Craig was a Senior Landscape Ar chitect at LD Total and also held positions at Cardno. But the long term affects for me have cost me a lot to include a lot of therapy. This is supposed to be abhorrent sexual acts? This was ironic, as many credit Parlato as one of the primary architects of his arrest and the cratering of the cult he founded. That is a huge red flag. Display as a link instead, Get and keep your own life in order. Couldn't even tell his wife was a lesbian. Throughout that time our state leadership became our direct overseers. Thanks for sharing your experience with another group. It never occurred to us that we had another option: to walk away from all Way-related structure and doctrine. Ordained publicly by him, he taught them that these illicit and clearly adulterous acts were par for the course, and OK. No matter the collateral damage in this minustry of Love. Great point that Catherine may have got celebrity treatment. Ummmm yes it was. She is gone now, maybe she knows the whole story now that she is dead, anyway if you were there an also you would know of Bob M, HE WAS ONE OF THE GOOD ONES he left the ministry because of the wrongs that were being done by Martindale and others I have been out of the way since the 1980. David was a great leader, but God forgave him as he would anyone who truly repented of their transgression. Plus theres a lot of word salad going on by the leader. I too was in the Way Ministry in the 70s and early 80s and still have many of the books, tapes and magazines. As for Jeffrey Epstein, who is prominent in these pages, he was an old rich guy who liked young women. I was part of The Way International Ministry from 1993-2006. Stop making yourself out to be more than some dude from Texas with a shity looking mustache. Craig Martindale is a Parks Project Officer at City of Cockburn based in Spearwood, Western Australia. The four of us visited each others homes and shared meals and prayer. Craig Rex Martindale, 52 Resides in Salt Lake City, UT Lived In West Jordan UT, Draper UT, Farmington UT, Roy UT Related To Calleen Martindale, Casey Martindale, Jennifer Martindale, Rex Martindale, Shirley Martindale Also known as C Martindale Includes Address (9) Phone (7) Email (4) See Results Craig Duane Martindale, 54 The state Moonie headquarters is just down the road from me. I am offering my perspective from my own experience in a cult since they are all about power, sex and money. Oh, please, Scott. Loy's pension would have no bearing on tax exempt status of the corporation as a whole. The Limb Leaders responses were that perhaps I needed to be going to more functions and wasnt giving enough; that I should have counseled with Way leadership before making my decision; that if I hadsincerelyprayed and contemplated, I would have chosen to stay with The Way; that The Way had experienced some problems through the years not unlike the first-century church; that most followers who leave never return; and that I was welcome to come back at any time. I felt like a shell of a person. Respect is earned. Now put your anger on the back burner. Again, thats what it boiled down to. Hubbard plagarized. . Life is a journey full of choices and obstacles. As far as him not knowing about Donna and Rozilla - it is likely that he *did* know. Craig was Manager at Deloitte, and Associate at Hewitt Bacon & Woodrow. How is this justified? If that was true, it's not too much of a stretch to suppose that, also by law, LCM would rate SOMETHING as severance pay for his 18 yrs as pres, and the 65K was what he and twis lawyers agreed upon. [] Former Member: The Way International Biblical Ministry Was Rife With Sexual Excesses Just Like OtherFrank Report [], Another survivor of that cult wrote a book about her experience, Losing the Way. Oh, please, g. witnessing to packages and weight machines On sabbatical lovely Shel, in search of new and exciting snow cone flavors! Over time, I began to experience a groundedness and quietness in my soul that perhaps comes with age. I was afraid that if I left we would become splintered because we wouldnt be likeminded on the Word. That may seem obvious to most people. About; Blog; Projects; Help; Donate; Contact; Jobs; Volunteer; . The stuff Rosie had to agree to in their out-of-court settlement in the Paul and Fern Allen lawsuit in 2000 preclude her from ever fessin' up to the truth and facts of their prayshuss min-us-tray. Your link has been automatically embedded. So badly that sticking with da forehead's incredibly sophomoric and bigoted WAP classes is even better than digging out the ole '67 POS that's made them all that $65 mil. Craig Martindale's Phone Number and Email Last Update. We all spoke in tongues after 2 days. Have investment income from your pillaged $65M - so you can lie to Wayfers and say their ABS doesn't pay for a trust fund lifestyle for the Naked Cowboy of Cabin 12. The Rise and Expansion of the Christian Church in the First Century by Martindale, L Craig and a great selection of related books, art and collectibles available now at AbeBooks.com. You can post now and register later. I was 20 years old. Cults, a cult of any kind, is akin to mental rape. Eventually I began to see the Bible as other written works; that is, as historical literature instead of the God-breathed Word. I had landed in the agnostic camp. Who leaders molest young girl and for all intense purposes stay out the limelight. Two of the main reasons for our moves were to live geographically closer to believers in areas that were spiritually hot and to keep our rent payments reasonably low. I already had a quasi-exit plan. A LA - perhaps they thought this was the "FIEND tracker forum" :)-->. My heart grew crustier after that choice. Distasteful, yes, but hardly difficult to understand. They have lied on and off the public record for so long the only thing they can do is STFU and hope the money lasts long enough to dump it on their most loyal gestapo and whatever family they haven't mark and avoided yet. Last I looked, Jesus was the only perfect person to walk on this earth. She is full of shit. we post and write thousands of news stories a year, most wanted stories, editorials (under categories - blog) and stories of exonerations. Da Forehead's name is still on the deed. Frank is similar to me, in that he relishes the truth, not fabricated contention. L Craig Martindale: Living Water Series - 12 sessions August 7, 2021-October 23, 2021. Thats really what it boiled down to. 1 2 3 4 5 Next Public Records & Background Search Sponsored by BeenVerified Craig D M, age 30s, Rosemount, MN Search Report Locations: Rosemount MN, Minneapolis MN, Rochester MNPossible Relatives: Lyn K H, Sara K K, Andy W M They were trying to control me way too much for my likening. Romans 3:23 is real, ALL have sinned, so why get so bent out of shape and spend years and good energy talking about the sin when were called to spread the gospel, the good news. But better late than never. Phone / Text: (305) 783-7083 Like any set of folk tales, its not without interest, there are even some nice stories in there, once you skip the smiting and the incest. The fact that the guy at the top had to quit in 2000 is interesting. Contributors were called Spiritual Partners.) when I was in-residence. Think of all of the people you could have saved from joining and even helping people quit. The Bible was what we based the truth on. As for Oxenberg, it seems that many people think that she did enough of the modules, and was around long enough, that she should have started to realize what was going on though I have yet to see anyone say with certainty when the modules with the most objectionable material were presented, and that Oxenberg unquestionably would have taken them. My book is a very personal story of how Wierwille personally trained me, and how Craig Martindale, the second president of The Way International, eventually betrayed me. I blogged my countdown to 50, sharing my feelings about reaching this momentous age. But enough is enough. Your previous content has been restored. I think on the next Way Productions Showcase, they should include a sketch entitled "What Craig Does With His Time But Not Your Money". One hopes that he is giving 20% of his il-gotten gains back to TWI. Not to say that there werent other reasons, but the incident with my son was the deal breaker. Fear of becoming possessed or influenced by devil spirits was one controlling factor. So, today.martindale collects his cult-pension (65K) and social security benefits (15k-17k?) Now, its the ideological cults that proliferate. The list could go on and on. Netflix announces plans for Knives Out sequel cinema release. The actor will star alongside Ruth Negga for an adaptation . Keith plagarized. It was one of the hardest decisions of my life, and I had no idea the can of worms I had opened. Implementing Biblical principles to live abundantly. For the most part, life is good, and certainly much larger than when I was a Way believer. The Way Corps was like the Gestapo . You are trapped in your own head, swirling with other cultic input. The teachings of Dr. Weirwill are sound, sometimes more true than any organized religion that is generally respected elsewhere. Working after graduation in areas of concern, interest, and need. I have never felt so close to my Heavenly Father. I don't want to disappoint Him. (Click hereto read a letter my husband sent Rosalie Rivenbark, president of The Way at the time, shortly before his departure.). Read Our History. A frank, in-depth account of one womans struggles in a controlling organization. Kirkus Review, #78 on BookRiots100 Must-Read Books About Life in Cults and Oppressive Religious Sects, more gripping than a mystery,Undertowwill sweep you away. Janja Lalich, PhD. Pastor Wierwille? Also, the Hari Krishnas were infamous along with a couple of other groups for proselytizing at airports (parodied in one of the Airplane movies) in the pre-security days, though I dont think they targeted campuses as much. That guy was a vicious bastard then and obviously his true nature was finally exposed. His primary fundraising goal was for Cal's new football facility, which opened in 2011. Nxivm was not a legitimate business. By . The last I heard, Craig was living in the Toledo, OH area working for UPS and as a personal fitness trainer. Craig Martindale Group Head of Capital Management. Craig has been found in 10 states including New York, Georgia, Florida, Ohio, Utah. One is casually strung along with the inner workings privy to a trusted few whose world is now the cult only and whose moral judgment has now been suspended. I have heard of The Children of God, The Church of Christ and the Church of God, but never The Way International. My husband also had two different job changes during that time. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Whatever it wasmartindale slithered out of headquarters in the dead of night. For years I struggled with the question,How could something I thought was so good turn out to be so evil? I would listen to Reverend Martindales teachings in my car trying to do the right thing as a Christian woman. I was in the Way so none of this would be news to me. Audio teachings by Rev. Craig Martindale's Email Addresses & Phone Numbers. David Martindale Livingston Lions. His abject fraud legally and spiritually, which he called "his min-us-tray" is too well exposed to ever want to take credit for even knowing vic let alone crediting him for their $65 million retirement fund. Loy Craig Martindale worked in THE WAY INTERNATIONAL (UK) LIMITED as an Executive. Also, typical for you to remain anonymous. Craig Martindales teachings were in no way right on. And we greatly doubted those we had heard of. Publication date 2021-12-19 Topics remnant-of-grace-god-bible-l.-craig-martindale. Our state leaders and the local leadership had known each other for decades, since before The Way. After I left in 2005, we learned that other top leaders had been aware of or involved with the abuse of authority in regard to sex; it had been rampant among the inner circle of top leaders. She was in The Way International from 1970 to 1987. All are common factors within authoritarian groups. Sometimes I get the impression that the gold standard around here is to be a teetotaling virgin. I dont know if youve heard of all of those, but they would have been easy to miss I didnt actually run across them at a smaller college I attended, but only later when I went to a large university for graduate school, and other than on campuses I think they only really had a presence in big cities. (Why Didnt We Know About Leaders Sexual Advances?). There is evidence to indicate that both Rosalie Rivenbark and Ramona Biden played a role in the events leading up to the sexual encounter between Craig Martindale and (Mrs.) Allen. JOIN FOR DONATION. Three of those crossroads coincided with three major Way exoduses when followers left en masse around 1987, 1989, and 2000. The Dead Are Now Asleep TWI maintains, as do Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists, that there is no conscious existence after death . If we were in combat you would be the guy in the rear hanging with the gear. For a number of years, I worked part-time at a large science center, and then as a preschool music instructor. And Im most happy that my family remained intact after leaving The Way, and that our children are not living under the constraints of Way doctrines and practices. From the latter 1980s through the 1990s, The Way became more and more controlling, step by step endeavoring (and most often succeeding) to meddle deeper and deeper into followers personal lives. In the years following I have become an armchair expert on cults of various kibds, and they are not all religious. Might as well believe in unicorns and flying saucers. Always polite young men. Music and poetry, writing and art, nature and animals have become integral parts of my life. From 1984 through the spring of 2005 (for me) and the spring of 2006 (for my husband), we stayed closely involved with The Way, serving at the local level and overseeing Fellowships for many of those years. Once confronted, he got himself together so much so God called him a man after his own heart. Talk about all the people who Victor Paul Wierwille (first president) and Craig Martindale (second president) and other leaders abused in more ways than one. It is NOT a cult. Loy is registered to vote since October 10, 2000 in Lucas County. Martindale was himself an excellent teacher and his behavior should not be condoned but forgiven. You are too scared to speak for yourself, let alone g. LOL, How do you know that NOBODY gives an F regarding my input, have you checked with EVERYBODY? But I couldnt care less about L.Ron having had courier girls dressed in shorts and go-go boots. From my viewpoint in hindsight, top Way leaders used Martindales fall as an opportunity to save their own faces in the eyes of Way followers. What gave martindale leverage of such an agreement? What a LIE my Father was one of the troops who walked up on a camp with the dead and starving people behind the wire!!!! Within seven monthsof leaving The Way, I got a job working as the manager of an art studio. And yes its hypocritical for a person who claims to be chaste for Jesus to be screwing around. Is this James from Texas? Stiles book about the Holy Spirit. The Way exemplifies that. plus spending every last penny they had not sending their kids to college, or even going to college themselves, on driving to meetings in all kinds of weather and non-functional vehicles, paying to get into those meetings, classes, advances, weekends in da Woid, Anniversary weekends, Outreach Weeks, Rock of Ages, Word In Business, corpse week, limb meetings, Brsnch meetings, area meetings, camps, coffe houses, door-to-door witnessing, inviting serial killers, homeless drunks, mentally unstable, emotionally distressed, and intellectually challenged into our homes, feeding them, driving them all over the universe, NOT because that's what Jesus might have done, but because those were the only types of people they could hustle'n'flo into their lowlife cult. It was a mentally and verbally abuse marriage that was, in his mind, based on the Word. He also was evidently having sex with underage girls, which is both immoral and illegal. It poured onto the page, which led to writing about hopes and dreams. Free company director check. I ma forever grateful and thankful for learning the truth of God;s Word under his leadership in the ministry and his stand on the accuracy of Gods Word. A few months after that, I learned that I wasnt the only client he had harmed. Are you fing kidding me? I wanted to feel whole again. At our last move in 2003, after we had stepped down from running a Home Fellowship, we went against the no-debt policy and took out a mortgage. They took their Word over them alright. Almost a year after I filed the complaint, the therapist viciously attacked me online with false allegations and accusations in multiple rants and articles complete with my photograph. And I think Sky is right, when he said that 82k(?) The prolific director, writer and producer has a rich, signature approach to world building . This is in response to Nxivm Perv Leader Keith Raniere Taught Rape as a Metaphor for Orgasm. In 1997, we sold our home on which we had a mortgage. Have to give to him on that one. We were those hippies. How about live and let live as long as the other doesnt attempt to abridge your belief or unbelief? I joined the ministry in 1974 and I still have my books and other written materials that are based on the truths of Gods words. We did not counsel with leadership prior to our decision but did receive a personal visit from them afterward. That job was one of my best therapies as I communicated with artists of all stripes from all over the country. Lately, here at Greasespot.we'vediscussed quite a bitabout retirement issues in regards to that Revival and Restoration group. I believe I can speak for G and everyone else.. G would probably rather wipe her ass with number 4 sandpaper than reply to one of your questions. So he gave her everything she wanted. Ive used the popular names for the groups rather than their formal ones which would be even less familiar to people. $61.00. Any contact with other Way believers was limited. Remember those guys from ECU Charlene? One example of that was our decision to home school. Its available in paperback and eBook at major booksellers. In my view, that claim to special revelation from God was bogus (fraudulent). He was found guilty of professional misconduct along with negligence, incompetence on more than one occasion, and unprofessional conduct. Cults are like onions, with outer and inner layers. Did you actually look at the picture?? Even Craig Martindale. We know right from wrong. p.s. He was followed by his hand-picked successor, L. Craig Martindale. Spoken with parents whose sons, and daughters, have been spirited sway by self help, home spun gurus, etc and felt their helplessness. We all fall short, but VPW said, dont look on him, but on the Lord Jesus Christ. Save Page Now. However, I believe that someday God is going to judge us for our actions here on earth. Not to mention profanity was a common thing. On file we have 41 email addresses and 62 phone numbers associated with Craig in area codes such as 716, 585, 607, 770, 478, and 18 other area codes. The Way became one of the largest cults in America. Contact Frank with tips or for help. Check out Craig Martindale's College Stats, School, Draft, Gamelog, Splits and More College Stats at Sports-Reference.com One last note. Tryin to make a Buck! Active Directorships 0 Resigned Directorships 1 Closed Directorships 0 Total Directorships 1 Paperback. I guess he must have missed a couple. I have it on very good information that loyboy is into 3-somes. We got hooked immediately by his knowledge of the scriptures. Though Craig is now worth $30 million, it didn't necessarily come easy to him. I agree respect is earned. In 1995 our local Corps leadership, a married couple who were 1st Family Corps, were made mark and avoid. The Family Corps was a specially designed Way Corps program for adults with children. His sexual appetite for young girls became obvious. Martindale warned his followers of the dangers of breaking commitments to the ministry by saying one would be " a grease spot by midnight" if he forsook his oaths. I was involved with the Way Ministry in the 70s and 80s, representing Gods truth of His Word as a Wow Ambassador with my husband 1987/1988. Rather, while trembling, I informed our husband-and-wife Limb Leaders via phone about my decision. For now, in 2017, Im happy with that. Morton Played 18 Seasons in the NFL via ESPN Craig Morton played for the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, and Denver Broncos in the course of an 18 year NFL Career. Mark and avoid ended their relationship. This is in response to Frank Reports Former Member: The Way International Biblical Ministry Was Rife With Sexual Excesses Just Like Other Cults. My only involvement with cult-awareness involves a few contacts, sharing on my blogs, and a small amount of social media. Read More . The experience with that therapist was deeply traumatizing. (Click hereto read about that doctrine helping to drive me to the brink of suicide.). I NEVER felt the need to immerse myself in another MLM scam or a cult after experiencing Amway. The Ryan Murphy Collection: 11 Shows and Movies You Can Stream Right Now. He was a paranoid, narcissistic, sociopath who loved Hitler, and his Drambuie. how to make a sprite stop moving in code org / June 15, 2022 June 15, 2022 / June 15, 2022 June 15, 2022 Way followers experiences can differ (sometimes widely) depending on their local leadership, their depth of involvement, and the years they were involved. . My husband had a college degree, but not in teaching. Toleration is a social necessity. Even had an academy of some kind for training broadcasters. Section title.
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