It cant. This is vital. German Organization for Combat, 1944 - Feldgrau Technical Quartermasters Department Perhaps in Armd/Mech it could even be comverted into a 120mm Mortar Pl, complementing the 81mm which can struggle in the faster-moving and dispersed Armd battle? I can understand not having an SF Pl in armoured and mechanised battalions because the loss of firepower is offset by 30mm but in light-role battalions it is a battle-winner, especially in the defensive battle! 6.5 grendel or creedmore) for DMR type weapons. The Universal Infantry Battalion Wavell Room Your email address will not be published. If they are vehicle commanders of two of the four section vehicles then when they dismount their vehicle gunner will have double workload. With a universal size, it is easy to see gaps and to fill them. A battalion is a regimental sub-unit of infantry amounting to between 500 and 1,000 soldiers. This coincided with the U.S. Army's reorganization and implementation of the Brigade Combat Teams (BCT). If it isnt possible to reintroduce 51 mm, then a lightweight 60 mm mortar could be an option. Phase 1 and 2 training for a Combat Medic is around 40 weeks, compared to 28 for an infantry soldier, and even then they are not allowed to practice unsupervised until theyve completed their class one training (usually a year into their first posting). Could we not then consider having whole crews staying with the vehicle rather than depleting them when the section has to dismount? That said, mounting guard for a month would I think be novel and exciting and interesting, not least because of the opportunity for the junior ranks to live it up in London. DUI Each type of brigade ( infantry or airborne infantry) has the same basic organization. Such a doctrine would also change the very nature and character of many infantry units which would then become mech-inf and therefore their thinking, their self-understanding, their military culture and so on will change. At a higher level, each armored brigade (formerly designated 'heavy brigade') is now composed of three CABs (versus the two CABs of a former heavy brigade), one reconnaissance squadron, one artillery battalion, one brigade engineer battalion (BEB), and one brigade support battalion (BSB). If the light battalions have the current strength of 560 then 28, with the specialised infantry unchanged at 267, gives a total of 16748. Secondly, top-slicing the Army Reserve and a Regular-Reserve integrated ORBAT: I struggle to see what the problem is you seek to solve and what the advantages are of integrated Reserve companies compared to the current system. However I dont think any future peer to peer (or near peer) conflict will allow us to stand up reserve units as reinforcements, we will go with what we have, they will fight. Intermediate ( think 300 blk or 7.62 AK) type calibres optimised for under 300m for carbines and/ or section belt feds. The current active corps are I Corps at Fort Lewis, Washington; III Corps at Fort Hood, Texas; and XVIII Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. To take, and then hold ground is the usual answer. If not six wagons as I suggested previously, maybe four section vehicles plus a Pl HQ wagon? With this weapon now returned to individual sections, in lieu of the 5.56 mm L110A2 LMG, there is arguably no need for a separate machine gun platoon, especially as platoon vehicles will have a mix of 12.7 mm HMGs and 40 mm GMGs. Do MANPADS have a place in the future infantry battalion? Operating in pairs, the No.2 will have a L129A1 DMR. [1] The UK has a problem with air defence. The organization here has been valid since approximately 2012, although weapon systems have changed over time. Tri-Service? "[3] The standard NATO symbol for a battalion consists of a pair of vertical lines placed above a framed unit icon. Instead of an ISTR platoon it there would be a mort company with 3 platoons with 120mm mortars, plus a patrol platoon combining the sniper and recon platoons, and finally a UAV company. The figures given for the number of soldiers carried, number of dismounts etc. Gary Uchida was an original member of the 100th Infantry Battalion. Our Army Structure in Vietnam - Charlie Company Vietnam 1966-1972 I think we need silly ideas and massive reforms, such as your ideas on simplify rank structures to fit with a much smaller army. Commando Battalion (joint para/RM group) Fantastic comments. The understanding we always had with the TA was that they would fight the big one, the clue was in the name really, well until 2014 at least. No one wants a similar video of their cap badge. There is also the fact that its not just about seating the troops but stowing all their personal kit and still having room for all the extra section kit and all the spare ammunition and stores and all the vehicle stores. Born on the island of Kauai, he moved to Honolulu to go to high school but left before he graduated to take a job at the Halekulani Hotel where he was working when he was drafted in 1941. Same for Mech Inf, if you are happy to reduce dismounted infantry mass to 22 (36 + 4). I am not going into the argument about a Battalions manning however the REME manning is open to question. Without the institutional Army, the operational side cant function. VFHVe xC=E>wPK gk R$~(k: CQuu9#MN mb)jNE1>SCBC+l 1 However, the usage of designated marksmen not too common. @UKLP The GPMG Light Role and GPMG Sustained Fire are very different weapons with very different roles and capabilities. This assumes light-role units are geared towards lower-intensity than the operations which Armd/Mech Inf will conduct: higher-intensity warfighting with an increasingly potent air threat. Here to Germany Army Unit Organisation 1939-41. The discussion has been first -rate too. Administratively, battalions are subdivisions of regiments. fire missions, instead the mortar team is at his immediate disposal. The Reconnaissance Platoon usually operates 6 vehicles, with each crewed by four soldiers, or 8 vehicles, with each crewed by 3 soldiers. Infantry platoons will typically be divided between four vehicles as they are at present. So back to my original question , can firepower and manoeuvre replace infantry mass, at least for armoured infantry units for the missions they will be used for, while maximizing boots on the ground for protected mobility Battalions which would have a different primary mission set ?? A battalion is a military unit with 300 to 1,200 soldiers that usually consists of two to seven companies and is commanded by either a lieutenant colonel or a colonel. Current divisions include airborne, armored, infantry and mountain divisions. An armor or air cavalry unit of equivalent size is known as a squadron. The GPMG requires a No 2 with binos to maximise the guns effect which is not going to be realised by the crow given the big heavy gun in a section. Consider too the fact that soldiers are bigger now and less flexible in such cramped space, having bulky rigid body armour, helmets, belt kit and the ubiquitous daysack which did not factor to the same extent when Warrior was designed. In the back of the Warrior 510 are two benches, not individual seats. Is the Infantry Brigade Combat Team Becoming Obsolete? A battalion's subordinate companies and their platoons are dependent upon the battalion headquarters for command, control, communications, and intelligence, and the battalion's service and support structure. Ok thats a long post so short range air defences, and infantry use of drones later !! One of the most significant changes in military structure was the introduction of the United States Colored Troops in 1863, the first official military integration policy. Combat medic is attached from the Infantry Battalion Medical Platoon. They would free up the Battalions and companies now assigned to this role to shore up the numbers in real Battalions . I appreciate, cause I found exactly what I was looking for. Your email address will not be published. (just to muddy the waters). I appreciate Ive written a lot but have a few more broad questions on future infantry structures and would be curious to hear others views. The US Marine Corps already adopts a similar approach to the one described here. 100th Infantry Battalion | Densho Encyclopedia The thing about 36 is that it divides neatly a number of ways 4 x 9, 3 x 12, 3 x 10 + 6, 4 x 8 +4. 1945-1950. In some countries, battalions are exclusively infantry, while in others battalions are unit-level organizations. This new structure eliminated the need to task-organize companies between battalions; each combined arms battalion was organically composed of the requisite companies. it would have a very vulnerable breaching capabilty and 105mm arty that is out ranged and very vulnerable to counter battery fire. The commander's staff coordinates and plans operations. This would lead directly to an to small infantry force wich would not be able to create the said necessary critial mass and also such an infantry would simply not have the overall size which is necessary to fight in an infantry-terrain (like woods, urban etc). Therefore, there may be a case to standardise all infantry battalions around a common structure with an identical headcount for each. $1.50. How about a Corps of Infantry ? US Army Organizational Structure For 2022 - Operation Military Kids Indeed, I can see Warrior being used for the next ten, fifteen, even twenty years. Have a great day. Genuine question because I do not think that Guardsmen do dislike public duties to the extent you suggest. @whitehaxkle I like this idea, keeps the flexibility of providing vehicle crews while improving the firepower ! Four soldiers make up a team a noncommissioned officer and three junior enlisted soldiers. Are ~1,200 troops really needed?? Meanwhile the support echelon is led by the Executive Officer, a First Lieutenant who is second-in-command of the company with administrative duties. Why are we tethering ourselves to four? Fireteam A fireteam is a small military unit of infantry. Instead, why cant be we be open to moving beyond the status quo of four vehicles per platoon? 04 Battalion HQ and HQ Company structure With IFVs, MIVs and MRVPs, the British Army will have a range of vehicles that can each carry a full section or 9 soldiers. Its a tactical-sized unit that can perform a battlefield function on its own. General Frederick Weyand, from. Battalion HQ will usually be comprised of 6 officers + 10 other ranks. Headquarters Section (2Officers, 6 Enlisted, 5 Attached), , Sergeant(OR-5), armed with 1 M4A1Carbine, , First Lieutenant (OF-1), armed with 1 M4A1Carbine, , First Sergeant or Master Sergeant (OR-8), armed with 1 M4A1Carbine, , Sergeant (OR-5), armed with 1 M9/M17 Pistol. I agree on the close relationship between regs and reserves, having been in a specialist reserve unit, I have seen it work really well. IBCTs also are organized to be airborne or air-assault capable. A company is commanded by a captain with a first sergeant as the assistant. [US Army] Infantry Battalion Structure & Attack Tactics World - YouTube It is a proposal discussed at length already by a host of military commentators including UKLP. We already have two dedicated battalions for public duties and what youre really asking is could we make do with just one? So to summarize it up: my suggestion would be to create identical infantry bataillons, but without any organic protected mobility. Another question I have concerns the mention in one of UK Land Powers tweets (I do not use Twitter) that the BAE Rheinmetall Joint Venture could lead to the AS90 155mm self-propelled howitzer being upgraded to Braveheart standard. The U.S. Army's Infantry Rifle Platoon consists of a platoon headquarters, 3 rifle squads, and 1 weapons squads. The central idea in proposing a universal battalion structure is to build it around platoons of 1 + 35 soldiers. It just seems a bit of an own goal to me youve got a big powerful IFV that you cant exploit fully. To put it in perspective Ive never hit a target with 51/60mm and never missed with CG. Just realized your modular multi-role battalion has 42 people less than the current Armoured Infantry battalion establishment who are these 42 peeps and what do they do? Specifically, the transition from the failed 1940 organization to the improved 1941 organization that served the army until the spring of 1943 when finally, the 1943 organization was established. A battalion may also contain a combat support company. And a Canadian infantry (rifle) battalion, in an armoured division, was organized, and consisted of: - a Battalion headquarters of six officers and 54 other ranks - a Headquarters company of five officers and 94 other ranks, within - a company headquarters - a signal platoon - an administrative platoon UK Infantry battalions have a Fire Support Company with five elements. Each of the infantry regiments had, besides its twelve rifle and heavy weapons companies, a 13th (infantry howitzer) and 14th (antitank) company. 1) What is the total manpower bill of the new proposed battalions compared with the current manpower liability in all infantry battalions? Cramming ten blokes kit in is a nightmare. Infantry Regiments and Their Commanders 1792 - 1815 The Austrian infantry and their commanders. Theyre generally headed by a four- or five-star general. Option B creates three sections of 10 soldiers plus a smaller Platoon HQ of 6 soldiers. , First Lieutenant (OF-1), armed with 1 M4A1 Carbine, , Staff Sergeant (OR-6), armed with 1 M4A1 Carbine, , Specialist (OR-4), armed with 1 M4A1 Carbine, , Specialist (OR-4), armed with 1M4A1 Carbine, Fire support personnelattached from Field Artillery Battalion, 3 RiflePlatoons(1Officer, 39 Enlisted, 3 Attached each), 1 Platoon Headquarters (1Officer and 3Enlisted + 3 Attached), , Specialist (OR-4), armed with 1 M9/M17 Pistol, , Sergeant (OR-5), armed with 1M4A1 Carbine, Forward observer and fire support RTO attached from Field Artillery Battalion. These include light infantry (foot), airborne and air assault units. With that in mind Id suggest four sections of six, so that everyone off a given platform is on the same page, four sections could also divide neatly down the middle with its vehicles to give two patrols of twelve under a platoon sergeant and a platoon leader respectively. In my world it would be EAGLE 44 and 66 to have commonality in light and medium protected mobility. The basic building block of military capability is the infantry section. Rifle Squad consisted of 9-12 men lead by one NCO(Sergeant) and a During World War II, most infantry regiments consisted of three battalions (1st, 2nd, and 3rd) with each battalion consisting of three rifle companies and a heavy weapons company. Under the observation of the Marine Corps. 1. The size of a battalion could range from 500 to 1,500 troops. I have proposed just what you suggest in your comment. I like your set up for the battalion except for the support company which I think itshould be split into 2. While Light Role battalions will primarily operate on foot, they will still need all-terrain vehicles that support them in the field. 57mm The three commanders of the U.S. forces during the Vietnam War were: General William Westmoreland, from 1964 to 1968. www.canadiansoldiers.com I dont mean to bash your idea but I do think that the current system, despite its flaws, is generally fit for purpose. The weapons platoon would have the mortar platoon, the anti tank platoon, and an assault gun platoon with some sort of wheeled TD or support gun. So providing extra seats at platoon level should be affordable. This creates a requirement for 1 officer + 44 other ranks. The UK bought the 60 mm Hirtenburger mortar as a UOR weapon, but, in standard form, it proved to be too heavy and needed too much ammunition to get on target. Clambering out of the turret, the other problem I have with this idea of max capacity is that there is no flexibility for transporting additional personnel (for example: terp, MFC, A/Pnr, EOD, blokes whose wagon has been hit, casualties etc) or carrying extra stores. Great conversation going here, I am squished onto public transit in 30 c temps in Ontario, so please excuse typos ! So while I like your idea of a standard, basic, modular structure, it seems very typically British in that it appears under-gunned compared to allied nations ? NOTE: This summary of Army Tables of Organization and Equipment includes only combat and directly related major support units. The infantry brigade combat team, as of 2014, contains 4,413 soldiers and is organized around three battalions of infantry. is the close combat element of the Infantry Battalion, with this article specifically covering the Rifle Company as it exists in the Infantry Brigade Combat Team (IBCT). This amounts to 1 officer and 38 permanent enlisted personnel, as well as 3 usually attached enlisted personnel. This page describes the organizational structure of a typical US Infantry Division. So the question is does effective dismounted mass require an increase from four vehicles per platoon? Man-portable drones and UAVs could be battle-winning assets. corporal. There are four companies to a battalion and four battalions to a regiment. As you say Marcus part time Medics would not know what there about compared to full time regular army medics, I was told this many a time in my time in the TA/Army reserve/ what ever its called this week, a large number of which tend to work in the NHS and Private Health Care and although my abilities to get the shine of my boot to dazzle the sun, the razor sharp creases in my trousers to cut the RSMs eye balls is very poor, I did 12 years of medical training and working in A&E. The Universal Infantry Battalion by Nicholas Drummond August 29, 2019 With a smaller army limited to just 82,000 soldiers, the organisational structure of its component units and the number of personnel within individual sub-units starts to become very important. The proposed universal battalion of 690 gives a total of 22080 for 32 battalions, an increase of 3742. A Carl Gustav 84mm in the Coy. The Civil War led to the establishment of the first American staff school in order to train officers in the art of order transmission and execution. It allows Marine Expeditionary Units (MEUs) to be generated quickly. This would fit the MoD whole fleet management. Mortar platoons with 8 or 9 x 81 mm tubes has been proven on many occasions to be sufficient. I think that keeping divisions how they are is the better system and that each of the divisions should be organised into independent battlegroups (with some of their own logistics included) that can be used to bolt onto a heavier or lighter formation as and when required or massed together such as the armored div for a major confrontation.
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