Two quotes so far: Karlovy, who or neighbors used and liked, but we have a few Simeonton windows and the vinyl frames in the south windows are chalky (it's only been 5 years since install--non south facing windows are fine). Thanks again for all the help, Unfortunately there was no screen left behind. local companies. Once you've reached this, you'll know it because they won't move any lower, then you sign on the dotted line. Loewen: StormForce. They have a very cool latch and auto lock feature that is quite nice. I would absoutely get a bid from PGT on their WinGuard window. $10,175.00 PGT 5400 EnergyVue Replacement Windows Information and Forum for all brands of windows. That's not the fault of the window company, but a function of the condition of your home. Elaine - Homeowner - from 2021, Im replacing a large slider door in Destin Florida. Typically, the mid range window series is going to offer the best long term value. 33301 Contact Number 954-256-1055 Will ask about the Simonton comps windows. Home Default - Western Window Systems Comparable to other quality impact windows out there such as the PGT WinGuard, Soft-Lite Armor Impact series, and the Simonton StormBreaker Plus. Home Depot quote me $20,000 for Vinyl PGT windows with a lifetime warranty. There are only two manufacturers that have decent designs and color choices, Custom Window Systems and PGT windows. So if someone has Simonton windows installed, what will be the percentage of the replacement cost covered by the warranty in 10 years? I know you had mentioned avoiding the entry-level lines of companies, so I just want to be sure. I would also monitor the work and be hands on, as much as possible the crews work better when they know. We are building in Tampa. I have used both windows in multiple homes I have built in South Florida. Thank you in advance for your help! This article is here. We too are trying to decided between the vinyl vs aluminum PGT Winguard windows and doors. He says that CWS does not have this perimeter trim thus showing more glass. Soft-Lite appear to be a very good quality product but can't find much info on them and barely anything about Paradise Exteriors, but don't want to miss out on potentially great windows for an awesome price! Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, -- Estimated CWS StormStrong Costs: $9,00 to $1,200 installed -- CGI Impact-Resistant Windows & Doors: Sentinel by CGI. I know that supply chain issues have screwed up all sorts of industry's quality, but that doesn't explain or help your situation. AmCraft isn't what I would consider a very good brand and I would be wary about going with them. PGT has resources and ideas to get you started. Not a world beater, but a solid mid range vinyl window. (assumes medium sized window and normal installation), I am replacing my windows in St Petersburg, FL (central, coastal Florida). Any advice would be highly appreciated! The majority of the windows are 32 by 70. #1 I would get a couple more bids from local companies to see how they compare with your current bid. Joanne - Homeowner - from 2017, Joanne, a slider shouldn't be difficult to open or close, or at least I've never heard sounds like something internally was put together wrong. When I had companies out to quote, I asked about aluminum frames and was told you could only do aluminum in new construction. Tim - Site Editor - from 2016, I have been researching hurricane impact windows and have become thoroughly confused. PGT makes a PremierVue series that isn't bad, and if that is too high as far as cost, look at their 500 series. Custom Window Systems Reviews 2023 | Replacement Windows Reviews I would stick to their mid range or premium series (ask each of the reps who comes to visit what those specific models would be.) (assumes medium sized window and normal installation), I live in Orlando, Florida and have negotiated what seems like the best possible price. You may also want to get one more bid to see where it falls in that price spectrum (and you could use it as additional leverage with the CWS company.) I took a look at the PGT website and found that they offer the PGT single hung 5400 series and the double hung 5460 in a bronze finish. Stormbreaker plus quote: $9100 Custom Windows Window Treatment Services Window Repair Fireplace Contractors Painters Paint & Wall Covering Dealers Door Contractors Glass & Shower Door Contractors Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers Landscape Contractors Landscape Construction Land Clearing Garden & Landscape Supplies Deck & Patio Builders Deck Repair Patio Design Their Armor or Barcelona series are going to be preferable the Durashield. Your advice and help is appreciated. You don't need to sacrifice substance for style; we design each window for smooth operation and quality performance. Builders grade at best products. CWS is coming in at nearly $9,000 less than PGT!!! Business Profile Custom Window Systems, Inc. Windows Contact Information 1900 SW 44th Ave Ocala, FL 34474-8743 Get Directions Visit Website (352) 368-6922 Customer Complaints 11 complaints. The company that bid it out had two options, either the WinGuard from PGT or the Wind Pact Plus from Custom Window Systems. Anyone have long term experience with either company? Guessing you meant CWS in this case? Assuming you are comfortable with the company doing the work, I think you have found a good option. PGT custom windows and doors are built to meet the needs, priorities, location, and budget of your home renovation. PGT 5500 series white vinyl insulated impact Windows , clear Low-exl 70 insulated impact glass w/ colonial grids. Eco windows have a large bottom sash if I remember right. The CWS 8000 series is a good impact window. Return to "Ask Our Pro's a Question". This is one of our selections for the best hurricane windows on the market. They tend to be either laminated or painted, and both have some drawbacks. ES Windows They seem to love their collections. Those two windows are pretty close in terms of quality and construction to the PGT5500. The CWS Windpact Plus is a strong impact window and one that I would thoroughly consider for my own home (if I needed an impact window and door). Storm Tight quoted us at $8825 for 3 slider windows, 1 small bathroom window and 1 double hung window. Custom Window Systems, Inc. | Better Business Bureau Profile Both are quality products from what I know of the two. Aria Series | Windpact Series CWS Estimate: $47.4K (using CWS patio sliders) Dane - Site Editor - from 2016, -- Estimated CWS 8200 Costs: $800 to $1,050 installed -- Take care of the installers and treat them good it all works, out in the wash. My crew was Anthony and Justin a small crew, with may years of experience whom explained every step and took pride. Got a bid from CWS for $22,640, although after some fancy number crunching it went down to $19,936. The other affordable hurricane window that is available throughout Florida is the StormBreaker Plus from Simonton, if you google "StormBreaker Plus Jacksonville Florida", or whatever city you live in, you should be able to quickly and easily find a contractor who carries this brand. PGT EnergyVue Series: $675 a window Custom Window Systems Wind-Pact Plus vs PGT #1 by FLhomeowner Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:19 am I received a quote for impact resistant windows from a company in southwest florida that installs both Custom Window Systems Wind-Pact Plus (CWS) as well as PGT windows. The CWS is an Argon filled window, but the ESW Elite is not. Alliance Window Systems. PGT Custom Windows + Doors - PGT Innovations So far have only spoken to Carrollwood Doors and Windows. PGT Innovations competitors include Ply Gem, Andersen Windows Corporation, Pella Corporation, JELD WEN and Custom Window Systems. I would say the two windows you have bids for are very close in quality. Windows are : Dane - Site Editor - from 2016, -- Estimated CWS 8100 Costs: $600 to $750 installed -- Not sure of CWS transferable warranty in standard or an option. I do kind of like the idea of getting windows from a factory in the state in which you live, but I'm not sure there is anything really rational in the thought, I think it just gives me a piece of mind for some reason. Depending on the "defects", I think you will, contractually, need to give them the opportunity to remake the product and deliver it in specification. Headquartered in Ocala, Florida, the company has been in business since 1986 and serves most of Florida through dealer networks -- i.e. Dane - Site Editor - from 2019, Tim, I have a fairly complex set of windows and work that needs to be done for the install. Yes, at the end of the visit, Joe DID ask for a commitment, but that is what any sales person would do. We are being told the PGT window is a better window, that the vinyl will not discolor and that the slider and locking mechanism are better quality. Laurie - Homeowner - from 2018, Laurie, Both CWS and Simonton have relatively strong reputations in the industry. WindPact Plus Series 8100 - Custom Window Systems 8502 NW 80th Street Medley Suite #103, FL, 33166 305-419-1404 support@ecowindowsystems.com I'm very bummed that we can no longer get Gorell (out of business), the 5400 that they sold was a very hefty window and very well made. It is a lifetime warranty that covers everything including screens. I reside in North Florida and most of your recommendation are not applicable to me. Fraser - Homeowner - from 2018, Fraser, I would say that PGT has a bit better name and reputation than CWS, but not by much. Any advice is greatly appreciated! CGI. I'm not quite sure what remedies are out there though :( Not enough ratings CEO Rating Jeff Jackson 62 / 100 CEO Rating Winner Along with quality installation, you will be well served. My understanding is that the Durashield is Soft-Lite's entry level impact window. I did notice you dont recommend the CWS entry-level Aria series, but do like both the CWS 8100 series and the PGT 5400. PGT Innovations ranks 2nd in Overall Culture Score on Comparably vs its competitors. I would particularly recommend the Okna 400, which is a great entry level vinyl window, better than most manufacturer's mid range offering. PGT Windows have a great reputation in the window installation/manufacturer business. Patio Door Reviews | Storm Strong Series With all of those custom doors, you might see a huge range in prices between the different dealers. 11 windows for $12K. We were told it is rated for 150 mph winds. $8800. HU-3978, I just got quotes on windows from Paradise, Window Wall and PGT from Home Depot. PJ - Homeowner - from 2019, PJ, in Florida I usually recommend PGT, CWS, Simonton and Ply Gem. Windows - ABC Supply not sure). We like the idea of a local mfgr, but pricing was astronomical-almost double the Simeonton quote (ummmfactory direct implies a more reasonable price). We have 2 more companies seeing us this week that will give us quotes. Nat - Homeowner - from 2017, Nat, I don't know anything more about EAS windows than what I knew in 2016. MI on the other hand has a reputation as a low quality manufacturer and not a brand I would put in my own home. Two very large picture fixed windows and 4 fixed transoms. I'd see how these compare and then go from there Also find a Simonton dealer and get a bid on their Stormbreaker Plus. If you are doing full framed replacement windows you certainly can use an aluminum framed window same as vinyl or wood. Project is ongoing as I write. However, not surprised especially since I have been told by over several professional installers that PGT Sliders have High Seal Failure, but usually are always warrantied. They made one heck of an impact window. I'll let you all know how it goes! " CWS produces a range of products, including single hung windows, horizontal roller windows, sliding glass doors, fixed windows, accessories, horizontal vinyl film windows, verticle vinyl film windows, acrylic windows, prime doors, garage screen enclosures and rough openings. 2 size H37.5 x 51.5 The glass area difference will be slight, but that can make a difference in how much light comes through. Founded in 1980, PGT Custom Windows + Doors is the nations leading manufacturer and supplier of residential impact-resistant windows and doors. CWS - CUSTOM WINDOW SYSTEMS ( WindPact Plus Large Missle Impact Windows) Increased Energy Efficiency - All CWS vinyl impact windows are AAMA and NFRC certified, and are compliant with ENERGY STAR and Green Building standards when ordered with LoE 366 Cardinal Glass. Headquartered in Ocala, Florida, the company has been in business since 1986 and serves most of Florida through dealer networks -- i.e. Custom Window Systems Reviews, Ratings | Manufacturing near 1900 SW Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, Hi Dane,I'm new to the Venice, FL area after moving from NJ. We have a lot of openings (20- some of which are very large) so we knew this would be an expensive project. Call Doug Ramsey at Sequel. The 8100, 8200 and 8400 (available series or model numbers) can be ordered in a standard white, adobe or boronze, as well as an upgraded veneer color options that include natural cherry, anodized, golden oak, bronze, black cherry and medium maple. Any other better options out there using the Ygreene program? It does however use a pocket sill, which funnels water through the frame and out weep holes. My bad cpartist I was thinking of CGI not CWS. Other storm windows and doors include the Sunrise Coastal series, Soft-Lite Barcelona Impact Series, Soft-Lite Armor Impact Series, and the Stanek UltraExtreme series. I am SO GLAD I got all those quotes) I narrowed it down to 2. The second quote is for PGT HR5410 sliders and SH5400 single hung windows (not sure which sliding glass doors this quote includes) for $10,921.00. $125 more per window for the SLthat's a tough question, I think it's right there on the borderline whether that's worth it or not. CWS Hurricane Impact Windows - Assured Storm Protection Many thanks. CWS Windows Prices Kennedy Skylights 6. You could threaten to report them to the BBB if they don't cover the labor cost of the windows you purchased 3 years ago, but I would not pin my hopes on this approach. Cabana Door is oversized on length but narrower than standard widths. As a complete novice, I have no idea whether this price is too high. I asked about aluminum frames and was told you could only do aluminum in new construction.". $6400 for 3 panels 143 x 80. Your prompt response will be helpful because I only have 3 days to break the contract. Which option do you think is better? Dane - Site Editor - from 2020, I have CWS windows. Thank you. I got a quote from CWS today on 18 windows for $22,640. They are particularly known for their "hurricane" windows or impact windows for coastal homes. The small business I like very much has a 4 month delay on PGT so quoted me on Cws. Here's what I would do, call up PGT and see who their local rep is in your area and have them give you a bid. Custom Window Systems offers quite a few impact vinyl models and series, all of which are listed below. I googled "ews impact windows reviews" and very little came up. What style shutter with my Tudor Revival? Established in 1980 and headquartered in Nokomis, Florida, PGT Custom Windows + Doors is a manufacturer and distributor of building materials. Our review outlines why you can trust them to complete your job. Custom Window Systems vs PGT Innovations | Comparably PGT 5400 series PGT will replaced the windows - they will probably say "out of warranty" - it is very unclear just exaclty what their warranty is (!). We live in Tampa and came down to PGF and Simonton. I received a quote for impact resistant windows from a company in southwest florida that installs both Custom Window Systems Wind-Pact Plus (CWS) as well as PGT windows. ABC Supply is a wholesale distributor of both new construction windows and replacement windows. So, from what I can tell, once the winds reach hurricane strength your windows are no longer promised not to leak. I don't like this feature, but CWS does tend to make a quality window, despite the design flaw. Should I Get PGT Windows or Custom Window Systems? Brad - Homeowner - from 2021, Hello, we are replacing 12 windows and 2 sliding glass doors in our house in NE Florida. I have looked at PGT and CWS, but it seems that all extruded vinyl for the frames is white in color, but can be painted on the exterior facing surface. General CWS Pricing, -- Estimated CWS Aria Costs: $450 to $600 installed -- I'm no expert, only sharing what I read. " The key, is pick great windows but the installing company is just as important!! I am also of the mindset to pay for quality. CGI Windows and Doors 3. Even with the addition of these inhibitors, the southern sun restricts the lifespan of these windows. We liked the Simonton product slightly better, but most important, we found installers with great history and recommendations. I'm working on a budget. Linda - Homeowner - from 2020, Linda, the pricing sounds good; about what I'd expect to hear for a project of this size. I would see which of their windows you like the look of and then I would use the lower bids to see how low you can get the CWS or PGT dealer to go. I would probably compare it to the PGT5400, which I also like. I think you need a couple more quotes to compare it to. CWS is owned by PGT I do believe for a couple of years now, they just operate under the original name. Beyond that, as I understand it, aluminum can last longer, but unless well maintained is more prone to degradation by salt water. I included the measurements and location of the windows on the yellow sheet attached above. Paradise quoted us out on Soft-Lites at $9100 for 1 slider, 5 double hungs windows, and 1 bathroom window. Get a few bids, work the prices down, and then pick the window you want with the best options and cost. )3) 23 x 70 casement type Dane - Site Editor - from 2015, We live in the southwest section of Florida and recently received a bid for hurricane windows on our home - 10 windows in all. One story with 19 single hung windows, two upper moon shaped skylight windows (one over double front door entry and the other over the 3 panel sliding glass doors in livingroom) and two sliding glass doors (a double sliding glass door and oversized 3 panel sliding glass door) & a custom size cabana door with glass insert. Grids are 8/8 contoured grids. Also, I'm not a big fan of using PVC windows in the south. Are single hung windows (which FHIA said are the only kind they deal with) much better than double hung? Michael - Homeowner - from 2018, Michael, I would be wary about painting vinyl, it can void the warranty in some cases. Does it matter how good of a deal you received if you have thousands of dollars in water damage? Price: $12,687 for the following: Vinyl Impact Windows are impervious to salt and the salt-air corrosive enviroment of Florida. Ultimately, I want black/bronze exterior and white interior. We have 2 more companies seeing us this week that will give us quotes. Unfortunately Fla. and impact product in general is not well represented by window pros here on the forum. I would see if a local company sells CWS, Custom Window Systems, in your area and tell them you want a quote on their most similar window to the triple paned PGT5500 series. Is it possible that a slider should be so difficult to open just due to its weight? NewSouth Window Solutions 7. Quote was comparable to PGT but much better warranty. Jo - Homeowner - from 2018, Jo, the CWS Aria window is an okay vinyl window. I'd get a couple more bids to compare it to -- an impact window from PGT, Sunrise, Soft-Lite and Simonton if you can. The bid total comes out to $104/sq ft. and includes any remediation that might be required if we have to fix/replace damaged or rotten wood. Thank you!! I know that the Softlite are among the best vinyl windows. Ask replacement window questions & get answers! Which window is best and why? Ive put in some good sized wi, French door vs sliding? PGT has no regard for small customers. The test that I was thinking of is ASTM E331. Aria Series | 600 Series I know that CWS has a good rating when it comes to their impact windows. Choose from a variety of grid features, glass tints, and more. Dane - Site Editor - from 2022, Hi Dane, I am trying to find out what the difference is between the CWS StormStrong series and the CWS WindPact Plus series. The company we bought the window/sliders from does not like going thru all the trouble to replace and then reinstall.they can charge me whatever price they want for labor. Look for the window with the best leak performance and you might be one step closer to avoiding buyer's remorse. PGT Estimate: $63K (using PGT patio sliders) Or is softlite more of a cold climate window? Renton - Homeowner - from 2012, CWS does make good hurricane windows and they are not too crazy in terms of cost (or they shouldn't be). PGT Innovations is also the nation's largest manufacturer of impact-resistant windows and doors, holds the leadership position in its primary markets, and is part of the S&P SmallCap 400 Index. For very cost-conscious customers I would suggest the Silverline 9500 with several upgrades to make it code compliant. If it were me, I would turn to the quality of the installers as the deciding factor. Had my wife and I decided to pull the trigger tonight, he would have gone as low as $11,597 - this after the $500 coupon had we made the appointment through their Sam's Club kiosk, plus a discount for the free upgrade to Solar Max glass (with silver particles embedded in the glass), the military discount, and the rebate which he had to have his boss approve. I've had very few issues with them and when they did the company worked with me to make sure that everything was worked out to the customers satisfaction. Holland - Contractor - from 2012, Vinyl windows are getting more popular in Florida, but they aren't available in a lot of colors. PGT Innovations expects to finance the transaction with cash on hand and existing or additional financing arrangements. It's a coin flip from my perspective, I would need to see more specifics in the quotes to tip it one way of the other. If you want any further information we did boatloads of research on all the impact Windows. If there is a significant difference in the reputation and track record of the company doing the work then this would add a wrinkle to the equation. What else can you do, really? Susan - Homeowner - from 2018, Susan, this sounds like a first bid but not their final price. Perhaps Lowes' or Home Depot? Braden - Homeowners - from 2012, The CWS and PGT bids you got don't seem out of line in terms of price, the Gorell price bid is ridiculous - do not go with that ridiculous bid regardless of what they say. My own opinion is that it's nice looking, nothing crazy, but nice lines and a clean design. I'd start with a local home improvement store, call them up and ask if they make custom sized screens. I am looking at quotes for PGT and CWS. I'm impressive with the DP50 rating for sure. They proudly innovate and introduce products that meet or exceed, the most stringent coastal requirements. About Custom Window Systems. Get these 3 bids and see how they compare. The bid for all windows was $12,000.00. Thank you. Weather Shield: Premium Coastal Windows & Doors. Home Depot subcontracts instllersinstallers so there is a double layer of mark ups. Custom Window Systems - Soflo Impact Windows Likewise the Simonton Storm Breaker Plus is a solid impact window/door as well. I signed late yesterday evening. Sue - Homeowner - from 2019, Sue, the price is definitely in the realm of reasonable for an impact window. Many of the plastisizers that make it more flexible have been replaced by UV inhibitors that make it more brittle. Dane - Site Editor - from 2020, I'm in South Florida and need hurricane impact windows. The PGT WindGuard Vinyl is available two toned. I would recommend a few more bids to see how these compare. 600 Series | 8000 Series They each look like a viable option. Marge - Homeowner - from 2020, Marge, I think you're on the right track. I remember reading they acquired CGI. Even if the glass is damaged, an impact window will remain secured in the frame. Well also ask the company (GJC Port Charlotte) that gave us the PGT 14K quote if CW or Simonton is an option that will save us money.
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